We are entering the next phase in public consciousness. (Opposition to being Red-Pilled)
“All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” ~Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” ~Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948)
Christian Manosphere maven, Dalrock, posted: The Atlantic blames the Manosphere for mass shootings. , he cites: a largely incoherent article blaming the manosphere for mass shootings.
Feminists are now demanding that men oppose the Manosphere.
Feminists and their fellow female-supremacist enablers are turning a corner. While they once smugly ignored the Manosphere/Androsphere/Intellectual Dark Web, they eventually acknowledged its penetrating presence by switching to ridiculing it. August 7th, 2019, the fembots have finally decided to fight us in the public square.
She’s got her little gun turrets aimed at you, brother.
I noticed that the author, Helen Lewis, was careful not to specifically mention any operating Manosphere sites, so that her readers could not go there in search of the truth, but instead she set up her own woman-hating, violence prone, straw-man to shoot at.
Our friend Jack keeps a fine list of Manosphere sites on his sidebar at Σ Frame.
Helen whines; “Women’s sexual and reproductive freedom are seen as threats to civilization itself.” Apparently most Feminists are not yet willing to contemplate the reality that a nation of self-serving whores is not as stable as a nation of upright people with mothers who are trained from their youth to be dedicated to their husbands and children. Then Helen whines that anti-Feminist videos are getting too many views on YouTube. Helen scolds that there are bad men out there who make generalized statements about women, and don’t accept dogmas like man-made climate change. Poor Helen, she might faint if she knew my sons and I leave our toilet seats up.
Helen quotes Ashley Mattheis who opines that the secular Manosphere thinks men are superior because of innate biological advantages, whereas the religious Manosphere believes men’s superiority is divinely ordained. Amen!
Helen does acknowledge that Feminist overuse of the misandrist phrase “Toxic Masculinity” has backfired by making their latent misandry obvious to men. And finally Helen implies that men are crazy for taking steps to protect themselves from now rampant false sexual-harassment and rape charges.
LOL
If those are their best arguments against men who aren’t ashamed to be men, then Feminisms’ eventual loss of control over societies sexual narrative may come quicker than we have anticipated. Like the bursting of a generational dam, the baby boomers and their failed Feminist experiment might quickly be washed away by younger generations who don’t want to repeat their parents’ folly, but want to try something different.
I don’t think men are superior at all. And some of the attitudes I’ve seen in the “manosphere” are horrifying and yes, some of the attitudes I’ve seen definitely contribute to mass shootings. But I don’t think white supremacy can be blamed solely on the “manosphere”. When Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux came here to New Zealand (and weren’t allowed to speak) I watched them online and a lot of what they had to say made total sense. But just like everything else, anything taken to extremes is dangerous.
“Toxic Masculinity” is the stupidest phrase ever. True masculinity is about protecting women, not harming them. Men who hurt women are not masculine. Masculinity is about strength, courage, integrity, leadership, assertiveness. None of those are toxic qualities – they’re very desirable qualities in men. There is nothing masculine about the behaviour dubbed “toxic masculinity”.
Like Helen Lewis, I am keen to know what gender has to do with mass shootings. If a meme I saw the other day is correct, it’s possibly partly because our young men aren’t encouraged to be masculine, but are becoming feminized, instead. So maybe they need more decent male role models.
I do agree that false rape charges are terrifying. In my country, it’s almost encouraged by our government paying out $10,000 “compensation” to all rape victims, even before there has been a trial and/or conviction. It is paid out without even a police complaint, with nothing more than the word of the woman. On top of this, the first thing to happen at sentencing is they try to seize the (supposedly – just because he’s been found guilty doesn’t mean he is) rapists assets to pay even more compensation to these “victims”. Sadly, I have just these past few months watched the life of a very good friend be destroyed due to this exact thing. Blood tests and social media messages proved the woman was lying; somehow the jury believed her Hollywood performance and he still got convicted. Evidence showed he was innocent; he’s still behind bars. And that woman is now $10,000 richer (and isn’t even a NZ taxpayer). It’s disgusting.
I don’t care if men leave the toilet seat up. I do care when they can’t aim and pee all over the floor and then I stand in it, in my socks.
I do fear for the future for my two sons. I fear more for their future, than I do for my two daughters.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. – Huxley. Scripture check: Mt 5:45
Never tell the truth to those who are unworthy of it. – Twain. Scripture check: Mt 7:6.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. – Orwell. Scripture check: Mt 10:22.
Heh, I guess the book of Matthew has a lot of wisdom pertaining to truth and Truth. Never made the realization before.
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“ Women’s sexual and reproductive freedom are seen as threats to civilization itself. ” – Lewis
Uh… duh? They are seen that way, because they are. The singular purpose of woman is procreation, out of which all her other commandments are born. She has monopoly on the act of childbearing. In *every* other facet of life, she is qualitatively inferior to man. By God’s design, all of it. Empirically observable, all of it.
Ironically, it’s almost as if these feminazis really can think: they just fail at bringing it all together. Perhaps undiagnosed childhood trauma from preschool days of failing at the connect-the-dots books?
Women are off chasing worldly fame and fortune, and decades of studies show they are worse for wear: they are miserable. Not caring about their feelings but about their mission (as prescribed in Ge 1:28): women- as a group, in the West- are derelict in their duty.
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” the secular Manosphere thinks men are superior because of innate biological advantages, whereas the religious Manosphere believes men’s superiority is divinely ordained. ”
This is the same difference. God created the man to work, gave him the biology to do so. God created the woman for the man to have sexy time with, gave her the biology to do so.
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It could very well be just my personal frame of reference, but I can’t help but think we are rounding a corner as a society. Granted, we are never out of this mess we call Life before we breath our last, or the Messiah returns- whichever comes sooner.
I work at a Fortune 100 firm as a mid-level manager. I keep hearing many women in the ~30-35 crowd really bemoaning not having a family. Yes, it’s post-wall for them. Yes, it’s girls talking. But it’s a lot louder, public and sincere than I remember from 5, 10, and 15 years ago. Perhaps all the firebrand feminists burned out when they burned their bras in the ’70s, and the latest batch of vagina-toting peoples just rode the wave of youth- not female empowerment- into adulthood, never were fully rabid with the infection of feral-nism.
Here’s to hoping the old guard that championed work pumps and pant suits for the office has either died off or just stays in with their cats drinking wine at woe-is-me late-adulthood parties crying about no purpose and a dusty uterus. The new guard just might well return barefoot in the kitchen and keep the bedroom alive, getting back to families and having babies again.
I keep meeting more and more young men in from young 20s to late 30s who either avoided marriage or women altogether, or got burned once and never picked up the societal tab again. I think this generation of women- who blew it- know the gig is up. These men have focused on themselves: their careers, bank accounts, enjoying Creation. It’s nice being the king in one’s life, and men are rediscovering it. (Women cannot stand men who are indifferent to their shaming, blaming, guilting, theivery- men who just carry on utterly ignoring them despite it all.) Men who becomes self-aware at their lack of needing women in life become powerful beings: there is no more leech on their personal growth, on their time and energy. Pr 31:3.
Short of basic universal income or another all-out rob on man’s resources, I do see a resurgence of proper male-female order with the youth who are coming of age today. This would be why the feminazis who still buy into the feral-nism concept are so rabid: the resources are drying up, too few of their kind remain (they will not reproduce, so are forced to recruit). They seek to further move the goalposts to sustain- for a brief while- the status quo they know. They must grow their war beyond the current scope to prop up the lie that is unsustainable. It’s their self-preservation. Bless their pea-pickin hearts.
A star burns brightest just before it dies.
Ace says: “I don’t think men are superior at all.” LOL Ace has just diagnosed her own problem. as a Christian she either suffers from poor reading comprehension, or unbelief.
1 Corinthians 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. 8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. 9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
Sometimes the “weaker vessels” like to delude themselves, that they’re always the strongest vessel in the room, it’s another weakness of theirs. Our loving omniscient God knows that women are better off in subjection to fathers and husbands and consequently God has commanded subjection for women’s own good. Ace rebels against her own peace, and the peacefulness of her home, while apparently leaving other aspects of being a “keeper at home” left undone.
“I don’t care if men leave the toilet seat up. I do care when they can’t aim and pee all over the floor and then I stand in it, in my socks.”
Why does it not surprise me that there is “pee all over the floor” at Ace’s home? I’m not an expert on women’s work, but I doubt she is supposed to clean pee up with her socks. She complains about her position in the home while making it plain that she is just performing it poorly. LOL
My theory is that those of us men blessed with better endowment, have a natural advantage in being able to accurately aim our pee into the toilet. Everybody’s socks are safe at my house!
But then again, I’ve never tried peeing into a toilet while hanging upside down on the butt-end of the world, things may be different down under in the southern hemisphere.
LOL Sharkly I can assure you that my house is clean and tidy. Yes, sometimes the males in the house pee on the floor during the night and I step in it half asleep first thing in the morning before I see it. Both bathrooms in my house are cleaned thoroughly by me, every day.
Nothing you have written tells me that women are inferior to men. Nothing in the Bible tells me that women are inferior to men. While we different roles and different strengths, the Bible makes it clear that we are all equal in the sight of God.
Return this blog to men. Sharkly, go find a spot and watch All The Family with Ace, instead of making this Point-Counterpoint.
It’s your blog of course, I am inartfully wondering if this blog’s comment will forever be focused on Ace.
Swanny River, I hear you brother. Ace has once again promised to leave. Hopefully she will be focusing her resulting free time on doing those things that are well pleasing to her husband.
I am reminded of the time when I asked my father, “There is father’s day and mother’s day, why is their no children’s day?” My father laughed and retorted, “Every day is kids day! You have no responsibilities, and can play all day.” I sort of think the same about “male spaces”. Isn’t most every uncontrolled space I inhabit a “male space”, if I take command of it, and let it be known that the buck stops with me. I’m not sharing some gender neutral space with other people. It is my space, because I’m there, and I exercise my dominion over it because that’s my character and what I do. Nobody in my space violates my standards for them, without hearing from me and being corrected. If they don’t like it they need to find a new space, or else I do if there are too many of them so that I can’t coerce their compliance, or if I am at some great systemic disadvantage. Do you get what I’m saying? I make spaces male-dominated by entering them and controlling things if anybody crosses the line. Not by threats or intimidation, although it helps that I have a presence that can intimidate some, but mainly just by letting my expectation be known bluntly and without apology.
If every male in the world decided today, that Feminism was now over and that they were each going to enact patriarchy by the force of their will, Feminism would be stopped, and from there its entrenched tentacles could be peeled back inch by inch, deconstructing the monolith of Feminism that is built into our society. Meanwhile, I can be an individual light, dispelling the darkness where I’m at.
Start doing the things you think should be done, and start being what you think society should become. Do you believe in free speech? Then speak freely. Do you love the truth? Then tell it. Do you believe in an open society? Then act in the open. Do you believe in a decent and humane society? Then behave decently and humanely. ~Adam Michnik
Also, what in particular would you like to see more posts about? What would you like to learn more about, or hear shared? Obviously I’ll continue to post what I choose to post, but I may also be able to prepare some posts on specific areas where men might like some input, if they let me know where they might ask for my viewpoint. I’ve had some ladies ask, but, so much of that is just trying to get a second opinion when they already know where their husband stands on a matter. Thankfully that stopped after I posted: https://laf443259520.androsphere.net/2019/06/08/spiritually-two-timing-their-husbands/
But I would like to know if there are any areas where I may be able to help, or be encouraging.
Hi Sharkly,
A couple of topics come to mind; discerning the gift of singleness in the face of such ugly feralness of western women. That is, discerning the overlap between coming a eunuch for God and being in an MGTOW. For example, you and IKR seemed to enjoy Ace, but I don’t have that same desire to respond to her like you do, instead, I started skimming her comments. I think it is a good quetion to ask myself if that is due to a God-given gift of singleness.
Secondly, specific prayers for wayward wives. I believe the most effective action in most cases is to do what Deti has done, which sounds like you are doing. But what about us who aren’t faithful and forceful and are looking from a rescue from the Lord despite our own lack of forcefulness on submission – what type of prayers?
For example, l pray that God gives you the gift of attractiveness and that your wife would willing submit to you because she finds you so attractive.
Sharkly,
My suggestions:
1. You had a long debate over at Bonn’s blog about whether women are made in the image of God. Summarize your points and Bonn’s. Show the weaknesses in Bonn’s points.
2. How to wash your wife in the Word. Outlines for different topics
3. How to lead your wife and your family.
4. More on exerting dominion and order at home, and outside.
Thank you
Bee & Swanny River,
Thanks for your topics, those are good ones, and I welcome more. On some of these things, I don’t have a great stack of laurels to rest on, as I give my advice. Perhaps my advice will come more form the ‘school of hard knocks’ and the Bible.
Most of my experience in life has been being reprogrammed by blue pill dogma into doing foolish and unsuited things and then paying a terrible price for dutifully practicing that churchian tomfoolery to its bitter end. By the good fortune of God, I was by nature quite masculine, a brash individualist, and undeterrable from whatever I set my mind to do. But school, church, the media, and society spent every possible opportunity teaching me that my God-given strengths were all “toxic” and that I should instead be a feminine, polite, team player, who always capitulates to others. It seems as though whenever I “failed” to do as I was instructed, and instead was a force of nature waging total war to achieve my ambitions, I was met by success, against the odds, that silenced my critics. And when I did as I was instructed and let others “help”(mess-up my projects) I was met with poor results and then blamed and disrespected as though I was the mess-up in spite of all the “help” I had. I’m not saying that I haven’t had good talented employees that were a great help to me, but just that any time I ever gave up my control, and shared the reins, the cart always immediately veered hard into the ditch. I always have a plan for how to do something unique, that others can’t quite see working, and then I make it work to their amazement. Anytime I get assistance their shortsighted inclination seems to always be, how can we ditch our unique path and chase after every foolish fad. They say: hey look, some journalist girl at a dying magazine said we should be jumping on this popular groupthink bandwagon, we’ve got to try that and ditch following through on our visionary contrarian plan. Why be visionary pioneers, when we can be like a dog chasing after cars. /S
An acquaintance of mine used to say, “the best way to make a small fortune in aviation, is to start with a large one”. And that is how many entrepreneurs operate, they convince investors to let them squander a fortune chasing after yesterday’s silly fads. And that is all sort of analogous to being about our Heavenly Father’s business also. Fools are tossed about chasing every new wind of doctrine, when God’s enduring truth has been mostly obscured and is met with disbelief and is now considered to be maverick theology.
Ecclesiastes 9:10 All that thine hand shall find to do, do it with all thy power: for there is neither work nor invention, nor knowledge, nor wisdom in the grave whither thou goest.
Our work for God’s kingdom should be the same. No pathetic half measures! Cast down the whoring effeminate churches of Babylon, and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, I’m a servant of the most high God and my path lies over their ruins. Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. Bulldoze those brothels, indeed whitewashed sepulchers, to make straight the way for our glorious Lord.
Psalm 24:7 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. 8 Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle. 9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.
“Our work for God’s kingdom should be the same. No pathetic half measures! Cast down the whoring effeminate churches of Babylon, and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, I’m a servant of the most high God and my path lies over their ruins. Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape.”
That’s the Spirit. Flatten that big old hairy mountain, Zechariah 4, make a paved highway and name it Parousia.
The advance troops are afield, the war of the end already is on, where are the Christians of the Western world? Embedded in the world-muck. Asleep in their fatnesses and comforts, transfixed by their goddess-nations, secure in the mountains of Samaria, constant at the table of Jezebel.
The LORD is a man of war; the LORD is his name! (Exodus 15)
You want to follow after God? Follow after that.
Hunt the swine of Belial down is my policy and pleasure, and I favor Joshua before Jericho, and Jehu at the gates of Jezreel.
Ha!Women keep tidy homes&bathrooms?Why do all these single mom wimminz keep getting caught with trash filled homes&sneaking into mens bathroom stalls?My shortest ever comment here,right?